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	<title>Comments on: A shocking fact about the War in London, I mean Afghanistan</title>
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		<title>By: Vontraplexium</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vontraplexium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This pretty much describes how the problem started... I called it youth.


&lt;a href=&quot;http://vontraplexium.blogspot.com/2009/04/youth.html&quot; title=&quot;Youth&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Youth&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This pretty much describes how the problem started&#8230; I called it youth.</p>
<p><a href="http://vontraplexium.blogspot.com/2009/04/youth.html" title="Youth" rel="nofollow">Youth</a></p>
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		<title>By: Spanish Sly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spanish Sly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, although Canada has it quiet and safe suburbs, not mistaken it for a complete safe haven! We have our areas here too where if you are spotted and you&#039;re not from the are, you will get yourself into trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, although Canada has it quiet and safe suburbs, not mistaken it for a complete safe haven! We have our areas here too where if you are spotted and you&#8217;re not from the are, you will get yourself into trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Sire</title>
		<link>http://fiddyp.co.uk/a-shocking-fact-about-the-war-in-london-i-mean-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-3256</link>
		<dc:creator>Sire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, but I can&#039;t see it happening anytime soon.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, but I can&#8217;t see it happening anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now that makes more sense than punishing them at 18 for what they learned at school at 8 . early discipline and early value teaching is key, get em while they&#039;re young and still scared of authority</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now that makes more sense than punishing them at 18 for what they learned at school at 8 . early discipline and early value teaching is key, get em while they&#8217;re young and still scared of authority</p>
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		<title>By: Sire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still reckon they should bring back the cane and bring the fear of retribution on the young. I remember when I had a deli the morons standard line was, &quot;You can&#039;t touch me I&#039;m under aged!&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still reckon they should bring back the cane and bring the fear of retribution on the young. I remember when I had a deli the morons standard line was, &#8220;You can&#8217;t touch me I&#8217;m under aged!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>byteful: I&#039;ll take a look thanks, our friend has flown back now so I guess it&#039;s time to stay at her place in Canada next year

imam: no problems

uyung: I think so too

Solomon: me too mate

the english guy: I think a visible presence is key in keeping order, problem is that kids know how far they can push a copper and how little the copper can push back

greg: I have never been fishing, can you believe that? lol, I would really like to go (with my laptop) :-)

sire: I&#039;m not sure more punishment is the answer, that&#039;s where they learn the real criminal mindset. I think parents should be held accountable, those with unruly kids who get asbo&#039;s get reduced benefit or even better - made to work cleaning the streets their yobbo kids mess up

jon: my missus is up in Lancaster next week, I&#039;m driving her up there myself. It&#039;s not that smokeless here either!

kermit: london isn&#039;t too bad (in books)

jon: tough on chavs! I&#039;d vote</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>byteful: I&#8217;ll take a look thanks, our friend has flown back now so I guess it&#8217;s time to stay at her place in Canada next year</p>
<p>imam: no problems</p>
<p>uyung: I think so too</p>
<p>Solomon: me too mate</p>
<p>the english guy: I think a visible presence is key in keeping order, problem is that kids know how far they can push a copper and how little the copper can push back</p>
<p>greg: I have never been fishing, can you believe that? lol, I would really like to go (with my laptop) <img src='http://fiddyp.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>sire: I&#8217;m not sure more punishment is the answer, that&#8217;s where they learn the real criminal mindset. I think parents should be held accountable, those with unruly kids who get asbo&#8217;s get reduced benefit or even better &#8211; made to work cleaning the streets their yobbo kids mess up</p>
<p>jon: my missus is up in Lancaster next week, I&#8217;m driving her up there myself. It&#8217;s not that smokeless here either!</p>
<p>kermit: london isn&#8217;t too bad (in books)</p>
<p>jon: tough on chavs! I&#8217;d vote</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Gordon Brown should take a leaf from George Bush&#039;s book and declare a &quot;War on Chavs&quot; - he could use a popularity-booster at the moment! I can see the next election slogan - &quot;Tough on Chavs, tough on the causes of Chavs!&quot;  ;-)

Cheers, Jon

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Gordon Brown should take a leaf from George Bush&#8217;s book and declare a &#8220;War on Chavs&#8221; &#8211; he could use a popularity-booster at the moment! I can see the next election slogan &#8211; &#8220;Tough on Chavs, tough on the causes of Chavs!&#8221;  <img src='http://fiddyp.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers, Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Kermit Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kermit Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had no idea that London was like this.  I always thought Londoners just dressed up every day, told dry jokes, and then stopped for tea and crumpets.

You really should move to Minneapolis.  For a large city, it is extremely clean, there are nice clean parks, and very little crime in almost all parts of the city.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no idea that London was like this.  I always thought Londoners just dressed up every day, told dry jokes, and then stopped for tea and crumpets.</p>
<p>You really should move to Minneapolis.  For a large city, it is extremely clean, there are nice clean parks, and very little crime in almost all parts of the city.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I feel for you mate, that doesn&#039;t sound like fun. Move up to Sheffield - the greenest city in England, with the Peak District National Park right on the doorstep (says the guy who&#039;s spent most of the weekend in a smoke-filled room, working on a new website design!)

Cheers, Jon

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I feel for you mate, that doesn&#8217;t sound like fun. Move up to Sheffield &#8211; the greenest city in England, with the Peak District National Park right on the doorstep (says the guy who&#8217;s spent most of the weekend in a smoke-filled room, working on a new website design!)</p>
<p>Cheers, Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Sire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, when you put it that way Andy it puts a whole new perspective on things. So why are things so bad? Is it the &#039;do gooders&#039;  fault for making things so lenient? Is it fair to say that we had it so much better in the &#039;old&#039; days? If so what has changed.

I reckon that perhaps we should be looking at punishment to fit the crime, maybe even start at an earlier age and bring discipline back to the schools. Perhaps even re-invent the cane?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, when you put it that way Andy it puts a whole new perspective on things. So why are things so bad? Is it the &#8216;do gooders&#8217;  fault for making things so lenient? Is it fair to say that we had it so much better in the &#8216;old&#8217; days? If so what has changed.</p>
<p>I reckon that perhaps we should be looking at punishment to fit the crime, maybe even start at an earlier age and bring discipline back to the schools. Perhaps even re-invent the cane?</p>
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